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Many people will buy into pretty much anything on the net. I have found many scam. This one, however, I have to write a page about it. It costs $25 to $50 to do a document search. Document that is free, but usually not accessible because it is in some archive in another state if not another country. So, hey! $50 would be quite cheap if you think of it... That is, if the search was real.
So? How does this one work? I look for my marriage, baby, divorce, death in San Francisco, California. Since none of that happened there for me in San Francisco, it could be someone else with my name... Well. The fact is that I can put any weird name in there, and each time, Bingo! that person (who?!) has been there, done that, and stuff.
Okay, the URL was: http://vitalrecords.us.com from Vital Records and all rights are reserved for their website. Good thing, otherwise I'd get myself a copy. Arf! Arf!
Note: As of Nov 9, 2008, that site does not exist anymore. There is one, http://www.vitalrec.com, that looks very much the same. At least, this one costs $2.95/mo, not $50 per search. And it looks fine, contrary to the previous one that looked really dodgy.
Now, how can you see that you will get in trouble (and no money back) if the search somehow does not work? Well... Click on Contact, you only get an email address. Click on Privacy and you see some blah with no way of contacting whomever in case there is a litigation, click on Login and you end up on a different website (how even weirder!) That new website is http://www.cisworldwide.com/ which does not in anyway sound like Vital Records.
That page shows a Verisign Secured logo which does not link to Verisign for one thing and the page is NOT secure (notice the http:... instead of httpS:...) Man... I'm sorry for the people who get caught in these scams. Note that now the Verisign logo is gone.
This 2nd site is very similar to the first. No contact information of any kind. However, they have this link to an affiliate program... hmmm now I'll question that site too! Oh! And there is a Fax number. That's just in case you wanted to opt out of the scam. Sorry, I mean of the spam that the scammers will send you. You know... you have to send them your Full Name + Aliases (in case you're known as Al Capone or something,) Date of Birth, any and all addresses you ever lived at, a phone number (weird, not all of them?!), your email address (ha! that's weird too, not all of them???) Well... who knows, that fax number may even work. But let's try to make sure... Ha! That's a fax machine alright. Too bad I don't talk fax language. He! he! Feel free to try it, it's a free phone number: 1-877-471-6992. Well, free for you to call that is... 9-)
Well... I signalled the page to Verisign since it uses their logo illegally, you know. We'll see if something happens. He! He! And now the logo is gone so maybe they act on that email. I did not get any notification back though.
Update: I checked today (Aug 30, 2008) and now the credit card is taken using ClickBank. Even though I do not like ClickBank myself, it is actually safe. So something did happen...
Below you will find the whois at the time I was looking at these pages:
whois vitalrecords.us.com
whois cisworldwide.com
Notice that the two sites are held by different entities. Both are probably fake addresses anyway. So don't bother whatever about them. (Actually, I thought PO Box were forbidden for the primary address... but anyway. No one verifies that!)
Domain Name: vitalrecords.us.com Registrant: Modeling Group Administrative Contact: Areg Sakanyan (H304424) aregsakanyan@yahoo.com Modeling Group 12 Riverside st. apt. 1-1, Watertown MA 02472 US Tel. 857-891-0157 Technical Contact: Areg Sakanyan (H304425) aregsakanyan@yahoo.com' Modeling Group 12 Riverside st. apt. 1-1, Watertown MA 02472 US Tel. 857-891-0157 Billing Contact: Accounts Department (H87003) support@registerapi.com Registerapi 8100 NE Parkway Drive, Suite 300 Vancouver WA 98662 US Tel. 1 (360) 449-5942 Fax 1 (360) 397 1966 Record created on: 01 May 2007 Record expires on: 01 May 2009 Status: Live Domain servers in listed order: NS2.SIMPLECOM.NET 216.77.84.8 NS1.SIMPLECOM.NET 208.62.162.3 COBRA.SIMPLECOM.NET 208.62.162.2
Domain Name: CISWORLDWIDE.COM Registrar: DSTR ACQUISITION. I, LLC DBA 000DOMAINS.COM Whois Server: whois.000domains.com Referral URL: http://www.000domains.com Name Server: COBRA.SIMPLECOM.NET Name Server: NS1.SIMPLECOM.NET Name Server: NS2.SIMPLECOM.NET Status: clientDeleteProhibited Status: clientTransferProhibited Status: clientUpdateProhibited Updated Date: 30-dec-2005 Creation Date: 30-dec-2005 Expiration Date: 30-dec-2007 Domain Services Provided By: 000domains, support@000domains.com http://www.000domains.com Registrant: c/o CISWORLDWIDE.COM P.O. Box 821650 Vancouver, WA 98682 US Registrar: 000DOM Domain Name: CISWORLDWIDE.COM Created on: 29-DEC-05 Expires on: 30-DEC-07 Last Updated on: 21-SEP-07 Administrative Contact: CISWORLDWIDE.COMtOpgEm@privacypost.com c/o CISWORLDWIDE.COM P.O. Box 821650 Vancouver, WA 98682 US +1.360-449-5933 Technical Contact: CISWORLDWIDE.COMGwnyOU@privacypost.com c/o CISWORLDWIDE.COM P.O. Box 821650 Vancouver, WA 98682 US +1.360-449-5933 Domain servers in listed order: COBRA.SIMPLECOM.NET NS1.SIMPLECOM.NET NS2.SIMPLECOM.NET
Okay... so they do want to make money which makes sense. Since like everyone else, they like to cash money. Here we are! I click on the "Become an Affiliate" link. I arrive on a site with an incredible cash opportunity and I think: I wonder who would want to accept such a company? Well! Look at that! That's the exact same company. Makes sense actually. Most companies do that. But not under another name claiming that you could make $100,000+ (ho no... sorry... today it's only $94,201.) Well, you know what. Maybe their affiliate #1 has made that much money. Maybe that's time for him or her to think about the legal aspect of that company too...
Domain Services Provided By: 000domains, support@000domains.com http://www.000domains.com Registrant: c/o PROFESSIONALCASH.COM P.O. Box 821650 Vancouver, WA 98682 US Registrar: 000DOM Domain Name: PROFESSIONALCASH.COM Created on: 21-JUN-01 Expires on: 21-JUN-08 Last Updated on: 23-JUL-07 Administrative Contact: PROFESSIONALCASH.COM03EhHZ@privacypost.com c/o PROFESSIONALCASH.COM P.O. Box 821650 Vancouver, WA 98682 US +1.360-449-5933 Technical Contact: PROFESSIONALCASH.COMfD1qrP@privacypost.com c/o PROFESSIONALCASH.COM P.O. Box 821650 Vancouver, WA 98682 US +1.360-449-5933 Domain servers in listed order: NS2.SIMPLECOM.NET COBRA.SIMPLECOM.NET NS1.SIMPLECOM.NET
So... Good good. I follow the link at the top named "Sites". Thinking that this site offers different sites from different companies and such. Sure enough! The first few: all the same! About legal issue and how to solve them. A little below, search for data, like the 1st website we've found, wow! A complete list.
Cool! So there are many scammers out there, right? Hmmmm... not really! Look here... another whois from... CIS Worldwide. Good one. He! He! And still with 000domains.com
Domain ID:D107274654-LROR Domain Name:REVERSERECORDS.ORG Created On:24-Aug-2005 23:55:10 UTC Last Updated On:23-Jul-2007 21:19:42 UTC Expiration Date:24-Aug-2008 23:55:10 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:000Domains, LLC (R69-LROR) Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED Registrant ID:DOT-1BNB7Z6K3WSZ Registrant Name:CIS Worldwide Registrant Organization:CIS Worldwide Registrant Street1:4915 Bathurst St. Unit # 209-107 Registrant Street2: Registrant Street3: Registrant City:Toronto Registrant State/Province:ON Registrant Postal Code:M2R 1X9 Registrant Country:CA Registrant Phone:+1.8665324766 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX: Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant Email:cisworldwide@yahoo.com Admin ID:DOT-C5TEDEX1MEPN Admin Name:CIS Worldwide Admin Organization:CIS Worldwide Admin Street1:4915 Bathurst St. Unit # 209-107 Admin Street2: Admin Street3: Admin City:Toronto Admin State/Province:ON Admin Postal Code:M2R 1X9 Admin Country:CA Admin Phone:+1.8665324766 Admin Phone Ext.: Admin FAX: Admin FAX Ext.: Admin Email:cisworldwide@yahoo.com Tech ID:DOT-3DJ0D2QXJW00 Tech Name:CIS Worldwide Tech Organization:CIS Worldwide Tech Street1:4915 Bathurst St. Unit # 209-107 Tech Street2: Tech Street3: Tech City:Toronto Tech State/Province:ON Tech Postal Code:M2R 1X9 Tech Country:CA Tech Phone:+1.8665324766 Tech Phone Ext.: Tech FAX: Tech FAX Ext.: Tech Email:cisworldwide@yahoo.com Name Server:COBRA.SIMPLECOM.NET Name Server:NS2.SIMPLECOM.NET Name Server:NS1.SIMPLECOM.NET
And all the sites have the exact same trouble: not secure, no address, no phone number. Now, on that site (Here http://www.reverserecords.org for those who are not following anymore) there is a link called: "Business Users". Funny. It takes you back to CIS Stuff and it includes pictures of bad guys with handcuffs and stuff. I suppose these guys are attorney and they'll know how to get out of it in case there were to be a problem for them.
And yes, all the super many sites presented there are all scams. All from the same company. And a while later some people emailed me and so I could add a few more. It's growing! Here's a semi-complete list:
http://www.cellphoneregistry.com/ http://www.cisworldwide.com/ http://www.civilrecords.org/ http://www.courtrecords.org/ http://www.courtregistry.org/ http://www.criminalregistry.org/ http://www.federal-records.org/ http://www.governmentregistry.org/ http://www.instantbackgroundreport.com/ http://www.investigate123.com/ http://www.locatepeople.org/ http://www.phoneregistry.com/ http://www.repoautos.org/ http://www.reversegenie.com/ http://www.reversemobile.com/ http://www.reverserecords.org/ http://www.searchpublicrecords.org/ http://www.ssnrecords.org/ http://www.stateauctions.org/ http://www.stateregistry.org/ http://www.webinvestigator.org/ http://www.webstigate.com/
I would think that the 1st website (http://vitalrecords.us.com) is some unaware affiliate... Hopefully, he will be fine if that's the case.
Now, some of the records place the company in Canada. Is there some sort of protection between the US and Canada? If someone from Canada steals US citizens, is there something we can do!? Probably not for $50.
Domain ID:D148029209-LROR Domain Name:FEDERAL-RECORDS.ORG Created On:07-Jun-2007 07:07:04 UTC Last Updated On:07-Aug-2007 03:56:58 UTC Expiration Date:07-Jun-2009 07:07:04 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:000Domains, LLC (R69-LROR) Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED Registrant ID:DOT-TF10J8RAULEU Registrant Name:CIS Worldwide Registrant Organization:CIS Worldwide Registrant Street1:4915 Bathurst St. Unit # 209-107 Registrant Street2: Registrant Street3: Registrant City:Toronto Registrant State/Province:ON Registrant Postal Code:M2R 1X9 Registrant Country:CA Registrant Phone:+1.8665324766 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX: Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant Email:cisworldwide@yahoo.com Admin ID:DOT-G3ZTC2CPKB8I Admin Name:CIS Worldwide Admin Organization:CIS Worldwide Admin Street1:4915 Bathurst St. Unit # 209-107 Admin Street2: Admin Street3: Admin City:Toronto Admin State/Province:ON Admin Postal Code:M2R 1X9 Admin Country:CA Admin Phone:+1.8665324766 Admin Phone Ext.: Admin FAX: Admin FAX Ext.: Admin Email:cisworldwide@yahoo.com Tech ID:DOT-4BJRS1J4Y8CP Tech Name:CIS Worldwide Tech Organization:CIS Worldwide Tech Street1:4915 Bathurst St. Unit # 209-107 Tech Street2: Tech Street3: Tech City:Toronto Tech State/Province:ON Tech Postal Code:M2R 1X9 Tech Country:CA Tech Phone:+1.8665324766 Tech Phone Ext.: Tech FAX: Tech FAX Ext.: Tech Email:cisworldwide@yahoo.com Name Server:COBRA.SIMPLECOM.NET Name Server:NS2.SIMPLECOM.NET Name Server:NS1.SIMPLECOM.NET